Proof Police: Yawn!

This goes a lot deeper than a couple of people in Oz leaving CKDMAI - take a look at the other threads.

I've seen some pretty unsavoury stuff over the last 6 months coming out of CHDMAIHQ in the form of scorning e-mails etc - things I'd never expect from people in the positions that they are in.

Personally, I'm reading this thread with interest...and, unfortunately, I have to say, most of it echoes things i've seen/heard/read elsewhere. "On balance of probability" I believe is the phrase....? No smoke without fire...and there's a lot of smoke, both in the past and present. I just hope CKD can clear up its backyard.

Cairns,

I have followed this with interest, and have not commented this far, as you are obviously not finished.

Despite the proof police, please feel free to continue, I for one am interested in what you have to say

Probably not. I have two full-time schools, 5 networked PCs between the two of them, and I do not believe that any of my staff would have written such an email. Former staff were privvy to my private life, current staff are not. It's the former staff that were around when my father died, that were privvy to my private life, and who now have a personal CKDMAI approved vendetta to close my school(s) down.



I understand from what I have been told, that Peter Wake was a great ambassador for CKD, and a really nice guy. I also understand that you were close to both Peter and Karen when you first started in CKD.

I'm not trying to put down CKD. CKD is a great art. I have always said that. I will always say that. Yes, I have an issue with some people in CKD, but not the art itself. If you have questions on my behaviour, fire away. I'm certainly not perfect, but like you said in a previous message about "Marshall," I too am passionate about what I do.

I am unsure how it makes you sick to draw comparisons. It's nothing about Peter & Karen Wake, it's nothing about you, it's about principles applied through and from CKDMAI. The standard they set and use is different from person to person and from country to country. Nothing bad about Peter and Karen Wake, just take that feeling you have, and imaging that your own father dies suddenly, and then someone from an organisation that you've given everything for over the past 6 years, starts ridiculing you and using that against you. You'd be a little more than sickened. You'd probably want blood drawn just like I did. I apologise and am sorry if the reference to them offends you, it was not meant to.

OK ProofPolice are back from lunch.......



Hey alister this post is called "Aus/CKDMAI split" isn't?, as far as ProofPolice understand this thread DOES only go as deep as "a couple of people in Oz leaving CKDMAI " ! ........ lets keep it real !, hahahaha



"Despite?", "despite?" ...... the ProofPolice are just getting started, anyone got some emails for all these people ckdcairns is calling liars - do they even know of these acusations? Hell, ckdcairns maybe you can help us out, you must know some emails for these people you call liars etc.. ProofPolice see's many cracks in this rendition of events portrayed by ckdcairns and we are out to investigate ! CAN ANYONE SEND US CONTACT EMAILS FOR THE ..er so called "Marshall", ...er so called "Bruce", ...er so called "Barry" PLEASE SEND TO: ProofPolice@hotmail.com



Hey what is going on here.... someone asked a question? maybe there is a job for you @ ProofPolice !


PS/ ProofPolice recieved this email from ckdcairns:
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cairnsckd
Evil has a new name... Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Cairns, Australia
Posts: 124

Constructivity

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Dear ProofPolice

CC: morphus, lilbunnyrabbit

Certainly I appreciate the feedback, yet don't like the tone and the attitude of your posts.

If hou have something constructive to ad to the thread, please do so. If you are going to continue to mock and ridicule, I'm going to pass it onto the moderators.
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WELL, WELL ! PROOFPOLICE HOPE THAT WE ARE ALLOWED THE TIME TO INVESTIGATE THIS THREAD AND EXPOSE ALL AND ANY UNTRUTHS, EXAGERATIONS AND FALSE STATEMENTS (if any, ....hahaha) ...and the ProofPolice are interested in how it is considered perfectly fine to call people liars and dishonest on this forum when ...hey, by all accounts it so far seems they don't even know this one sided slanging match is going on.... oooohhh .... this ..er so called "Marshall", ...er so called "Bruce", ...er so called "Barry" if you are out there PLEASE contact the ProofPolice at: ProofPolice@hotmail.com

Sorry ckdcairns I don't want to comment on that last post of yours yet, ProofPolice are only up to:-- "post 31", 23rd Oct, 2005 -- and that is where we go back to now.

Great to see a little more interest and input coming into this thread, your'e gaurenteed it is going to get real lively when the ProofPolice investigate!!

"BOOM ! BOOM !, LETS SHAKE THE ROOM"

Thanks alister & Taffy.

I've said most of what I wanted to say. There's a lot of other recorded messages, emails etc that I could put in, but that takes away from the facts, and makes it really quite petty. CKDMAI have come up with some brilliant stuff. Something I didn't expect. Some really rude and obnoxious stuff. Things that would make your hair stand on end. Yes, they have a lot to answer for, but anonymity and the way they do business would most likely put stop to that.

Like I have stated in my messages, I'm not perfect, and have made mistakes, and have apologised for them, and moved on. It seems to me that those that I have dealt with at CKDMAI do not have the same conscience as me, and cannot see when they have done something wrong, do not see when they have made a mistake, and do not know how to right a wrong, at least in my case. I have apologised to them for my behaviour, sadly, I don't ever think that will be reciprocated.

c'mon ckdcairns (or anyone else) give us some contact emails for the accused ....er 'lets call him Marshall" or ...er "lets call him Barry" or ...er the "lets call him Bruce" --- Be a sport guys !, the ProofPolice is onto something here and we want to investigate.

For someone going by the name ProofPolice you are not showing much deductive reasoning. I would suggest going to -

http://www.choikwangdo.com/

Locations - perhaps you could try.......mmmm.....let me think "Australia", duh? And see if you can deduce who "Barry" and "Bruce" are? Heck, why not go the whole hog and go to CKD HQ in the US and see if you can find a "Marshall"?

BOOM, BOOM SHAKE THE ROOM.......er........yes.......indeed?

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The rest of the crap that went on behind the scenes builds on what happened, but bears little relation to the facts presented. What happened, was sent, was said, was published, etc, really stumps me that people can band together like some type of KKK group and slander, ridicule, mock and taunt someone else in the name of COURTESY, INTEGRITY, etc. I'm no angel, but I'm not worth wasting that much time and energy on either!

The following message appeared on my web page in July. It contained an Australian IP Address. I did a trace on the IP Address: "CKDMAC Kirwan". Wow! When did "Bruce" suddenly become the official "CKD WEBSITES" spokesperson, and why the anonymous name????





Hmm. No reply was received when I asked him about it.

Back from lunch or out to lunch?

So, when you've finished your hugely informative 'investigation' here will you move to the 'So what's up in India???' thread and expose the circumstances under which 7000 CKD members apparently moved association. Are there any 'usual suspects' emerging yet?

It was Keyser Soze!

Hey thats a thought, the word "soze" is almost identical to the Turkish word for "verbal", and the word Keyser hints at the words "king" and "kaiser/caesar". I wonder who the verbal or chit-chat king of CKD is? Please help ProofPolice

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To give a person an opinion one must first judge well whether that person is of the disposition to receive it or not…………………………
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I wonder indeed - LOL CKD's very own Don King???!

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Why thank you Scaramouch !

Just wanted to be sure !

When the ProofPolice see cracks in the story this big we investigate and assume nothing !


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After all there are not meant to be personal attacks on these forums are there?? From following your link I have found these guys are real people!!! who ....er "cairnsckd" said in post 17 , 15th Oct., 2005 ........
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cairnsckd ! !! we wa we wa we wa we wa ProofPolice siren are blaring, these are real people with their real names !, and their real locations and you call them liars & dishonest repeatedly . NOW Were you really man enough to notify these people you were slagging them off on some forum .....out of the hundreds of itty bitty forums out there in the world or should they just know that your doing this because everyone has telepathic skills ?.................
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Hey lets NOT tell any of the accused and lets NOT let anyone get in the way of a good story.... Well sorry the "ProofPolice" are on ther job !
............and we did smell the scent of, ..............THROW OUT THE JUDGE AND JURY GUILTY , GUILTY, I SAY ! --- Guilty until proven innocent (shhhhsh, but just don't let them know they are on trial !) and the ProofPolice are here to expose the lies & or confirm the truth.

we wa, we wa, we wa, The ProofPolice are here!, ...... and the ProofPolice will be making contact with these individuals " er barry, er bruce, er marshall" and others as we investigate this whoily story! Our first questions we posted earlier will be sent out to these individuals AND you will get to read the ProofPolice report ! ...God willing.

Luckily we have paid our internet fees and the Patrol car payments are up to date ! as we all know that there is no way you can find a single company out there who will let you keep using their gear if you don't pay for it!...... or do we? ?? we wa we wa we wa the ProofPolice sirens are blaring again, Read on



Well well well, looks like we don't all know what we know .... this company CKDMAI is out there who will let you keep using their gear if you don't pay for it!...... they must be just really nice guys (.....or suckers!!!) !

and BTW "ProofPolice" did notice that "he" (in the last quote) did come to Australia, but we don't want to get ahead of ourselves now we are not that far through the thread yet.

ProofPolice have some people to contact ....back soon.

Hey mjb..... are you on thread????





or are you just the smokescreen?

ProofPolice

Is this the King you talk of? his name quoted here below is " Calvin " (....Always investigating )